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  • Coloradoprovider
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    Blackcat, you are much more diplomatic than me! I say things that I wouldn't have said many years ago! Yes, I would say something like, "You do have the power to fix this issue, do you need suggestions?" I also have no problem correcting behavior if I see it regardless if parent is present or not!
    Last edited by Coloradoprovider; 04-21-2022, 06:31 PM. Reason: misspelled

  • GirlMomma
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    THIS!!!

    These days, a parent just has to buy clothing for the child. The schools/providers are expected to do the rest.

  • GirlMomma
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    I am over it, too

  • GirlMomma
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    Cat Herder and Annalee very well said!

  • Cat Herder
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    But, But, But... everyone should have a right to abandon their parental responsibilities for free.

    The government needs them to buy more stuff and pay more taxes.

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  • Annalee
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    Out of sight, out of mind..... no one actually 'parents' their kids!

  • Blackcat31
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    Originally posted by Rockgirl View Post
    They’re not willing to put in the work required to teach their child appropriate behavior.
    I have one family in particular that when I mention ANYTHING about their children's behavior either parent will say "Welcome to my [our] world!" as if they are victims of circumstance.

    I fight every fiber of my being not to reach out and slap them...no really...But I do want to say "You do know YOU have the power to fix/address/curb this behavior right?"

    But I am afraid 1) they know and don't want to do it or 2) they know and don't really care. Either way.... it's not THEIR problem.

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  • Valerie928
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    EVERY KID in my care is in charge of the relationship with their parents.
    EVERYTHING their kids do is adorable
    CRYING is never ok, parents deter this by giving their kids everything they want.
    NO is never an option.
    I'm over it

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  • Annalee
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    Amen, ch!

  • Cat Herder
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    Yep. Discipline = to teach. Punish = to reinforce previously learned behavior.

  • Annalee
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    My dad used to say that discipline (whatever form) must be a 'deterrent' from unacceptable behavior. There is NO 'deterrent' now as kids cry, scream, spit, yell, holler, lay on the floor, etc. till they get what they want. There is NO consistency with any 'deterrent'. Parents today have children 'thinking' they just turn into lovely tiny humans but it takes work (role modeling, time, presence, etc.). Just my thoughts.

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  • Cat Herder
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    No-Cry Parenting aka Permissive Parenting.

    Also the "kid gets me the attention I have been seeking" parents fit in here. "Mommy loves baby show" or "Daddy is the favorite" types.

    The virtue signalers are on my last nerve lately. Kid is daycare every minute possible, holidays, birthdays, sick days and vacation weeks. But they post non-stop on social media about how their kids are their world. All photos are 80% parent faces and 100% photo shopped. Just gross.
    Last edited by Cat Herder; 04-21-2022, 07:24 AM.

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  • Rockgirl
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    In that moment, they don’t want to hear the screaming. They’re not willing to put in the work required to teach their child appropriate behavior.

    In the case of the toddler girl I mentioned above, I kept an extra pack & play set up one room away from the daycare room. When she started screaming, I would wordlessly pick her up and calmly place her in the pack & play and walk away. The instant the screaming stopped, I brought her back in with us and never said a word about it. It didn’t take long before she had completely stopped screaming here. She was, however, still doing it at home! She was still getting results there. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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  • fivestarday
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    I think part of it, maybe, is parents like to say everything is a "stage" the child is going through. In reality, the child is being taught every moment of every day how to behave. DS4 was having issues with screaming and crying fits a couple of months ago. I blamed my choices and readjusted what I was doing until it stopped being an option for him. But that does not mean he did not have to face consequences. I think discipline is about example, consistency, and consequences mixed finely with a "heck no, don't even go there" attitude of the parent. My son hasn't thrown a fit since I upped the levels on the consequences and "heck no, don't even go there" attitude. LOL

  • GirlMomma
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    Those actions are causing her to continue this behavior. Why can’t people see that?!
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