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  • CeriBear
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    I agree. I got the vaccine because I was tired of having to wear a mask all the time and having to worry about quarantining every time I passed someone who sneezed or coughed. I don’t think that we should be forced to get the COVID vaccine anymore than we should the flu vaccine. It’s a personal choice. This is all about government control over us and I’m afraid this is only the beginning.

  • GirlMomma
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    Thank you for sharing!

  • GirlMomma
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    Alwaysgreener it could be a reaction to the flu shot. Each time it was awful! That’s the only shot I’ve ever had a bad experience with. My kids and husband are always fine!

    I believe in herd immunity as well as natural immunity.

    DISCLAIMER: Besides a few extra lbs, my family and I are generally healthy people with no pre-existing conditions.

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  • Cat Herder
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    Well, that made me super glad I will no longer be having children after taking the vaccine. I will be following that more. Thanks.

  • Michael
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    This is an interesting take on Transgenerational Epigenetic Inheritance from a Nobel Prize winning neurologist. His concern does not seem far fetched.
    https://rairfoundation.com/nobel-lau...illness-video/

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  • Alwaysgreener
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    GirlMomma I agree with you e.j. on this. You could be having a reaction to the flu shot. I have a reaction to a tetanus/whooping cough shot. Every time I get it the symptoms are worse and now my doctor has it on my allergy list so I most likely will not be getting it again. When I got the covid shot they had me stay to be monitored for twice as long as normal because of my reactions to the T/WC shot.
    And ironically my SIL has a reaction to the flu shot. So it may be a good thing that you no longer get the flu shot.
    Last edited by Alwaysgreener; 07-31-2021, 08:15 PM.

  • e.j.
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    Originally posted by Sahm121 View Post
    I don’t get mad ar those that choose to vaccinate and I hope they don’t live to regret it.
    I don't get mad at people who refuse to get vaccinated but I do feel frustrated by their inaction. Since the spread of Covid first happened, the Boston news station we listen to most has held nightly Q&A interviews with local infectious disease doctors. Speaking about the vaccine issue, one doctor summed it up yesterday saying, "None of us is safe until we're all safe." Someone else recently compared the fight against the virus as more of a team sport vs. an individual sport and I thought it was a great analogy. She basically said that unless there are enough team players taking part in the game and trying their best to win, it's not likely the team will be able to defeat the opponent. When we first started hearing about Covid, there was a lot of talk about the importance of reaching herd immunity in order to gain control over this virus. We (the team) now have vaccines that can help us reach herd immunity and win against the virus (our opponent) but without enough team members getting those vaccines, we won't get there. (I think it's important to remember that the Small Pox virus was virtually eradicated because enough people throughout the world got vaccinated against it and while not eradicated yet, the last cases of Chicken Pox and Rotavirus I saw were when my kids got the c. pox and my dd got Rotavirus - about 20-25 years ago maybe? - just before the vaccines were developed. None of my dc kids have had a case since then.)

    Since when is an unvaccinated person a threat to the vaccinated and if the vaccine is as effective as they claim it is, why worry? In general, I'm a live and let live kind of person. I have my opinions but don't try to foist them upon anyone else. I do worry in this situation, though, because the infectious disease doctors I've been listening to say that as long as so many people continue to refuse the vaccine, the Covid virus will continue to mutate as we're seeing it do now - becoming stronger and more contagious as a result. If that continues to happen, the efficacy of the current vaccines could be affected which means more people could become sick and more people could die including those of us who have received the vaccine. Although they're saying the vaccine does seem to be holding up against the Delta variant and is at least keeping most vaccinated people out of hospitals and morgues, even vaccinated people are getting sick. On Cape Cod, for example, most of the positive cases (74%) are vaccinated people. I'm in a state where the vaccination rate is relatively high compared to other states and we're still watching the number of cases rise quickly and steadily each day. It feels like "deja vu all over again". As the number of variants grow, I worry about myself and my family as well as the people who aren't able to get vaccinated for health reasons and I worry about the younger kids who can't get vaccinated because the vaccine hasn't been approved for their age group yet.

    This should never have become a political issue. In my opinion, we shouldn't be listening to politicians - other than to those who are responsible for leading us out of this disaster and who are listening to the infection disease experts and creating advisories or mandates accordingly. Instead, some are listening to others who have their own agenda that isn't necessarily aimed at helping the common good. People are complaining about being told to get vaccinated, about having to wear a mask while indoors or in a crowd, about social distancing, about having to wash their hands, about their rights being violated, about lockdowns and the economy taking a nose dive and rising inflation but there seems to be little understanding that until we get this virus under control, all of the above will likely continue. In order to get the virus under control, we need to listen and follow the advice of the infectious disease experts who are trying to understand the virus and help us to avoid getting it so we have a better chance of getting back to life as we once knew it.

    As far as the flu shot is concerned, you really can't get the flu from the flu shot. It's made with a dead virus. It takes 2 weeks after getting the shot for your body to build up enough antibodies to protect you from the virus. If you're exposed to the flu virus within those 2 weeks, you can get sick with the flu even though you've been vaccinated. It's probably just rotten luck and bad timing if you get the actual flu every time you get the flu shot!** When my family and I got the Covid vaccine, we were told the same thing holds true. If you're exposed to the Covid virus within the 2 weeks after getting that shot, you can get sick with Covid. None of the vaccines comes with a 100% guarantee that you won't get sick from either virus but from what I understand, depending on what Covid vaccine you get, the efficacy rate is about equal to or greater than the flu vaccine. Since I get the flu shot every year and haven't been sick with the flu in I can't remember how long, it made sense to me to get the Covid vaccine which would give me a better chance of not getting the virus than if I didn't get the vaccine.

    I also got the Covid vaccine because I didn't want to go through what Sahm and her husband have gone through - either as a patient myself or as a wife or mother of a patient. (Sahm, I hope you're both able to fully recover from your ordeal and that it happens sooner than later.) I hate being sick, I hate the thought of dying in the way most Covid deaths are described, I hate the thought of having to close my day care and losing income every time a dc family thoughtlessly exposes me to the virus - and as more children get the virus, it's just a matter of time before one of the kids brings it into my home again. I also got the vaccine because I felt some responsibility to do my part to increase the odds of defeating the virus, especially for those who are at higher risk and can't get the vaccine and who need us all to do what we can to protect them.

    I seem to be in the minority here so I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to start an argument or convince anyone to agree with me. Just expressing some of my thoughts on the topic - as uncomfortable as it feels.

    **GirlMomma, I have a sil who always insisted she got the flu from the flu shot and none of us could convince her otherwise. She was at work one night and started to have what appeared to be symptoms of a heart attack. I don't remember the exact details because it happened several years ago but she was sent to the hospital and it was found she wasn't having a heart attack but a reaction to a recent flu shot. Prior to that episode, she never had heart attack symptoms but did always feel as though she had the flu so she assumed she got the flu from the shot. If you feel sick every time you get it, is it possible you might be reacting to something in the shot like she was?

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  • Annalee
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    I only got the vaccine to avoid quarantining; but there are people I know who have gotten covid recently that were vaccinated.....businesses that had stopped the mask mandate started it back up today!!! So I'm not sure what I think about it all NOW!

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  • Sahm121
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    COVID almost killed my husband and im a COVID long hauler….. so based on my personal experience, I feel sorry for people who don’t get vaccinated because I wouldn’t wish my experience and what we’ve gone through on anyone.

    My assistants have gotten the vaccine. All my DCF have gotten it too. I think being close enough to see it’s effects helped make their choice to get vaccinated.

    For the record, the treatment for COVID that my husband received when admitted to the hospital is still not FDA approved. His oxygen was in the 70s and he was literally suffocating in front of me and the downward spiral happened in a matter of 24 hours.

    COVID was debilitating, horrible, and terrifying. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

    I don’t get mad ar those that choose to vaccinate and I hope they don’t live to regret it.

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  • GirlMomma
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    There are two reasons why I’m holding off:

    1) I tested positive for COVID. I should be naturally immune to the virus. When/if the virus mutates, like it has, I fully expect to contract its new variant. Does this sound familiar to anyone? If I’m understanding correctly, vaccinated people can still contract the new variant… because there isn’t a vaccine for the new variant.

    2) It’s experimental. My husbands side of the family has been vaccinated. My MIL contracted COVID two days after getting her first dose. She also has had a period for the last 12 weeks. My DH’s aunt was hospitalized for breathing problems hours after her second dose. My DH’s uncle was extremely ill after his second dose and was out of work for a few days. My DH’s grandparents had no side effects.

    When COVID came thru my DC, we all thought it was another 24 hour bug. It wasn’t until DD needed a negative COVID test to return to school that we found out. About that time, I lost my taste and smell, days after the first symptoms. Personally, I’ll take the virus again over the vaccine.

    DISCLAIMER: Besides a few extra lbs, we are generally healthy people with no pre-existing conditions.

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  • Cat Herder
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    The fear with them being vaccinated is that they won't disinfect as needed because of a false sense of security. Even with the vaccine you can contract and infect others. It does not keep you from getting it or spreading it. It "may" minimize symptoms. Maybe. It is experimental.

  • flying_babyb
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    Originally posted by Cat Herder View Post
    Ours is trying to push the masks, again. Laughable. They never wore them the first round. I just hit delete. It is about funding for next year, not reality.

    1st quarter - 1 October 2020 – 31 December 2020
    2nd quarter - 1 January 2021 – 31 March 2021
    3rd quarter - 1 April 2021 – 30 June 2021
    4th quarter - 1 July 2021 – 30 September 2021

    1st quarter - 1 October 2021 - 31 December 2021 and on and on
    I work at a small center, and my boss made it staff choice to wear the mask. Two shutdowns total! One was student, one was a student and a teacher. We had 3 cases total. At this point half the teachers have chosen to get vaccinated.

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  • Gemma
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    Amen! I wish more people like you would run for congress

  • Annalee
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    We've been headed to socialism for a lonnngggg time, however it got slowed down a little but when the administrations changed this year, I knew it would start moving much faster now..... It's so subtle people don't get it till it's upon them.....

  • Blackcat31
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    I think it (and all vaccines etc) are a personal choice
    I am adamantly against requiring anyone do anything to their body in order to keep a job they already have.

    This type of thinking is too close to socialism for my comfort …and too far away from the freedoms and liberties this countries is based upon.
    To each his/her/their own.

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